I wish this could have meant more than it does. She conforms to the norms for American battleships. Wargaming knows it too. The most pressing thing to worry about when playing Florida is her citadel. Unlike the other "sniper" battleships like Slava and Champagne, the "softness" of Florida's hull is barely a concern. The 25mm extremities which damn her higher tiered cousins do not apparently have a lower-tier equivalency. I was expecting Florida to appear with 19mm of extremity armour but she instead clones the higher tiered ship weakness with 25mm instead. Given that all of the other tier VI and VII battleships are rocking 26mm worth of extremity plate, the loss of a single millimeter is not that much of a drawback. At most, this makes Florida slightly more vulnerable to HE shells from small and medium caliber guns -- specifically 152mm HE shells from tiers VII and below do not need to reach for Inertial Fuse for HE Shells in order to stack direct damage against Florida as they would against her tier-mates. Similarly, Florida is vulnerable to 120mm HE shells with Inertial Fuse for HE Shells. That's really the extent this soft skin provides in terms of vulnerability. Otherwise her superstructure, upper hull and amidships deck all conform to normal parameters for a tier VII battleship. Florida and California responded to the COVID-19 pandemic in vastly different ways, but comparing outcomes isn't so simple. QueensFGCU. She's boasting not only tier VIII AA firepower at tier VII but good tier VIII firepower at tier VII. California's secondaries are crap and they didn't have to be. Make IJN CV's actually historical, there are a number of options because while personally I'd restrictattack planes to the bombs they actually carried being HE, the standard torps and/or SAP DB's could be swapped out for Level Bombing AP (800 kg) bombs or Level Bombing carpet bombers (cause IJN TB's could and did do that kind of stuff). Her rotation rate of 4.1/s is again, pretty average. Let's pretend Arizona doesn't exist. Also, thanks for saving me from buying this ship thinking it would be good. Her 31mm rear deck will help shatter small-caliber HE shells too, as will her 50mm armoured secondaries. On the other hand, The problem with simply looking at DPM charts is that it assumes everything is not only 100% accurate, but also that all shells perform equally when they strike a target. It patently ignores two crucial elements: As Roma so painfully demonstrated, you can have gorgeous paper stats but if you simultaneously struggle to (a) hit a target and (b) get anything other than over-penetrations, then your experience is going to be hella inconsistent. Florida has her own struggles, but at least she's very consistent when it comes to landing hits. Florida uses battlecruiser dispersion -- the same found on ninja-accurate battleships like Thunderer. Sadly, this isn't paired with a god-tier sigma value. Florida has 1.7 sigma competed to 1.9 of Thunderer or 2.0 of Champagne, so she doesn't feel quite so accurate as some of the higher-tiered snipers. The lower sigma means that the occasional shell will still fly wonky, though the smaller dispersion area means this won't be as wildly askew as other ships. In short: Florida's accuracy is good. You should land more hits per volley than her contemporaries which should help mitigate some of her DPM issues -- not all of them, but some. If they don't want people comparing her to Arizona, Arizona needs to be pulled. All they had to do was drop the reload down to sub 30 seconds and I think more people would be interested in her. Why she has such high reload on s WebFlorida has an improved dispersion formula, but poor sigma. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. And foodfor thought as I review my Steam summertime queue to see where best to spend my $. It's just a matter of making the ship fun and/or interesting to play. February 28, 2023 11:24 am ET. California will cost you around 10,000 for a worse experience, tier for tier. Small hit point pool for a tier VII battleship. The North Carolina Tar Heels (18-11, 10-8 ACC) and Florida State Seminoles (9-20, 7-11) tangle Monday in Tallahassee. I won't be purchasing her. I HATE when people hinge whether they are going to buy a ship or not based on her reivew. Okay fine Germany get's 1/4 that allows theirs to even wreck BB's when they hit weaker armour spots, fine, USN 127 mm guns should still have some decent range and be able to aim someplace they do damage on non-DD's and not just be fire starters. Whenever I use a BB for Narai, I prefer to go east of convoy so that I can catch MO broadside when it turns. Maybe Repair Party needs to be a little less unique on cruisers, other than UK zombie type or other such quirks. Sure -- they have better range and much better sigma than New Mexico's. And that's fair to say. And I mean that in the same way I tell my significant other that "it's fine" when things are clearly not. It's all of the little things which add up to a bad experience for me. If you asked me to point at the one thing that bugs me the most about them, I'd probably tell you it's the 4/s gun traverse, which seems stupid to complain about given all of the other issues. However, I think that this quibble illustrates my beef with Florida's gunnery as a whole. Her slow turret traverse is just that "one more thing" that feels off about this ship. No matter her advantages, there's always a big ol' butt attached. Her 356mm AP rounds overmatch a maximum of 24mm worth of plate and there's a whole lot of structural steel within her matchmaking that's 25mm or thicker. USN could choose between type of plane, type of ordnance, etc. Alec Lasley. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating. Really highlights the value of crossing the T - which, of course, no one doesbecause it doesnt work in WoWS. Long range is nice, so flex those aiming skills you've acquired, but her gun caliber and long reload will largely limit the impact this has. California's speed is a severe handicap, but you knew that coming in. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1,400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 137 dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 3.5km): 364 dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 490dps at 70% accuracy. You are usually not shot at by much due to how target selection of bots works, so Florida's armor won't be a big issue even with the short combat range in OPs. This is a top-down view of California with her 343mm belt highlighted in red. Are California's main battery guns better than Arizona's? Catch the excitement and bet with Tipico! Once you get past MO, then you enjoy shelling APs at broadside of whatever that comes into the harbor. Phenomenal AA power is watered down more heavily than American Lite Beer. It's not high-velocity Soviet-good like Poltava's, though, nor does it have Duke of York's improved auto-ricochet angles (which shares the same penetration as KGV). For me, Ship Comrade allowed me to greatly increase the quality of my reviews. This long format, like you're seeing here with Florida, was facilitated entirely by having my content written for Ship Comrade. Critter8 encouraged CCs like myself and @Aetam to host our content on his site. As you can imagine, writing for a web-page is much more forgiving than writing for a forum post -- it didn't have to all be written in a single sitting, for example. In going over Ship Comrade's archives, it was a treat to watch how my reviews grew in size and ambition. My early reviews were usually written in an afternoon and seldom held more than four or five jpegs. Florida's review has nearly thirty and has been written over the course of a week.. When it comes to my battleships, I know what I like. What's more, California does not offer anything novel in the way of game play short of having better AA firepower. California's protection scheme is decent for a tier VII battleship but it's nothing special either short of her anti-torpedo protection (which is good but not as amazing as the size of her bulges would suggest). VERDICT: Not as nimble as you might expect. Good enough, I suppose, but definitely not one of her strengths. I really don't like her alternative palette. It's a dull, elephantine grey in unflattering patterns. Another review done really well. Thanks for your hard work. Summary so far: California has absolutely amazing AA levels. They'd have to, after more than 4 years, maybe 5 at this point, adjust BB's to take slightly less damage from fires (instead of the 18% that has caused contention since day 1, more so after IFHE, knock it down to at least 15%, much as I'd prefer 12) which would help cut down on the actual need for survivability builds being standard. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. Great work . as usual. Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. Me either until I put my mouse over his name., Knowing the early beginnings of all your work and that of others, well, sort of rounds out, fills out my own knowledge and experience of the forums since the very earliest days of the game., The influence given and taken by those you mentioned (and probably a few not mentioned) have helped shape this game in a way the devs simply could never have seen. The Soviets infamously have it too. I just came to read another review by LWM, and donot have Florida, but I have been farming in Narai since other farming OPs were taken down. Even then, it's often not enough. California's AP penetration is okay. Both wins and 109k average damage. No, really. Once engaged at medium-range, there's really not much this ship can do about it short of trying to fight her way out. But playing a standard-type battleship at tier VII or above needs to come with some pretty juicy perks or I'm not biting. As a result, Florida is growing; and California is watching an out-migration of the wealthy, the middle class and major employers. They're perfectly adequate -- I'm not here to tell you that they're broken, bugged, under-performing or what have you. They're well balanced and put out the hurt reasonably well. In fact, they've got a lot of good things going for them including good(ish) fire arcs, good range, decent AP penetration values and that sweet, sweet battlecruiser dispersion. So what's my beef? Compared to New Mexico, California has increased range (19.9km vs 16.1km) and better sigma (1.9 vs 1.5) but again that horrible deficit in fire arcs (102 broadside vs 109). Alright, that's enough fussing over what is little more than a curiosity. Let's get onto the meat of the matter. These weapons are not worth upgrading any more than you would find it worthwhile to upgrade North Carolina's or Alabama's secondaries. The 0.8 second faster reload still does not make her feel like she has anything but a painfully slow rate of fire. Florida is the state that more or less stayed open during the pandemic and thrived in its defiance. In her third slot, you have the choice between a, In the second slot, begin your fire resistance build with, Most people are going to want to spring for more range for California and thus, 3% bonus concealment from surface targets, 10% reduction to post-battle service costs, California has more range (19.9km vs 16km), California's AP shells do more damage (10,500 vs 10,300), California has a faster reload (34.2s vs 35s). I was curious about this ship as i really love playing Arizona. I love playing Arizona but i won't pay to have it at tier 7. This doesn't look like Landing citadel hits against enemy battleships tends to fall off at ranges over 14km or so, but you should still be able to land penetrating hits through most belts you'll encounter. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. But that requires changes well beyond the skill tree, because if we went back 4+ years - sure Germany would still be king of secondary builds with it's 15 cm guns, but French and even ships like Mass would terrorize DD's and cruisers pushing in to caps with secondaries only worried about not getting torped for sailing in a straight line than 152 mm raining death from behind an island - unless it was aiming at the superstructure. This ship is slow. WebThats a ship that was designed with this exact style of combat in mind, and I would buy the shit out of a BC Lexington. Thank you for having the integrity to call WG out on their shenanigans. Enjoy your break, you earn it every time you do one of these. All of Arizona's decks are 26mm). Picking her up and farming some damage is pretty easy. Tier VII battleship. In their past 10 Top Speed: 20.5 knotsTurning Radius: 640mRudder Shift Time: 14.7 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 3.7/s. You probably want, Arizona & California's Main Battery Differences. Unlike Arizona which finds herself occasionally enjoying the 36km x 36km claustrophobic maps of lower tiers, California more often than not sees the 42m x 42km and 48km x 48km maps of higher tiers. I should preface this by saying that I love the American standard-type battleships. Fair enough. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. Historical Ship and 2. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting Had she been strong, I think I could have just sat aside and let people discover that for themselves. I think she's too soft to be good enough to be a true BB and that makes it doubly hard when paired at top or mid tier where you are expected to be the beater for your team. You'll probably have to shell out some extra cash for the Freedom camo, whether that will be through a bundle or with doubloons after the fact. She's just not fun and you can get a similar (and better!) Florida's fire angles are decent. They're not good -- good is a 300 fire arc or more, but she's not as appalling as some of the ships I've dealt with recently. I just wish her turret traverse was better. Build for survivability and fire resistance. My Dallas and Helena should have the same pen as my Cleveland and Seattle, with or without IFHE in the game. Make it that maybe it's worth making a sneakierBB build to sort of flank an enemy team when in a faster one then surprise them., Unless you remove skill entirely - there will never be no 'optimal build' for a ship, even a type may still have one that is considered overall 'better' than the others - but they can at least make it choosing to run secondary build on German and French BB's is a choice in style more than a handicap. Uses the improved battlecruiser dispersion instead of that of American battleships. As a Californian and a player whose been as eager to sink my teeth into some California play as I would be a good fish taco, this review of what the ship is about is akin to finding a brown layer of over ripened avocado in that taco and being fearful it might actually be a cream of cow pie spread. Florida Gov. The horrible fire arcs on California's guns will necessitate more manoeuvring to swing out her guns and then duck back which will only ensure she's stuck on the lower end of this speed. Most of her teeth come from her 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons, barring a CV being gracious enough to face-plant into a flak-cloud. These do not survive long under HE fire and even cursory smattering of HE rounds will quickly reduce the effectiveness of her AA and open her up to the potential of air-attack. I dunno what's going on with California's turrets with her Freedom camouflage. Oh no you didn't! The property tax in Florida averages at 0.98% whereas in California it is 0.73%. She might not be physically present in the heat of combat, but her reach should allow her to at least offer some contribution while she lags way in the back. The only Florida Ive seen in Narai was deleted 3 minutes in somehow. North Florida are 4-1 in their last 5 games against the spread; North Florida are 5-12 in their road games against the spread; The totals have gone OVER in 3 of North Florida' last 5 games; The totals have gone OVER in 5 of North Florida' 11 last games at home It's comparable to Arizona's and they each have their strengths. When it comes to Florida vs California to live, Florida is significantly more affordable than most parts of California. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting amongst the transports. That fact has lingered with me but perhaps I can make her work better than most. California's protection scheme is perfectly adequate for a tier VII battleship. experience with Arizona down at tier VI. California has access to two camouflage patterns: Type 10 Camouflage California and Freedom -- California. Build for fire-resistance first, then double back for your other skills. California's AP shells have higher penetration. You need speed to reach thatposition in time, but if you do, you can sink MO in two salvos, allowing you to not rely on torps by other ships to take it down. The bot was without camouflage. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. But so far CV's under the rework have mostly lacked that and are a farce. Queens are 2-3 in their last 5 games. According to FBI data, there were a total of 1.3 million violent offenses reported in 2020, or 388 for every 100,000 people -- a 5% increase from 2019. It's worth being said: Arizona over-performs at her tier. Anemic damage values on both her HE and AP rounds along with poor fire setting. You see, the normal American tech-tree battleships have an artificial boost added to their engines -- they don't bleed speed like normal battleships do. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. Thank you for the preemptive warning, I meanreview on this one. Observe: California has absolutely horrid main battery traverse rates, coming about at a glacial 60s for 180. However, the premium standards Arizona, West Virginia 1941 and now California, all lack this boost. This might have meant something back before the CV rework, but it's a joke currently. Look at this chungus. Solid rearward firing angles, well suited to kiting. California has a boring ol' 14% healed over 28s, not the 16.8% of the KGVs and Hood, the 40% Nelson or even Colorado's 18.48%. She can contribute. Florida struggles even more. Don't brawl. You'll die. The Napoli is based on a preliminary design from Ansaldo for the Soviet Project 22 Heavy cruiser. TV: ESPN ( Watch and stream the game live on ESPN+) RADIO: Tar Heel Sports Network. I was looking forward to this review because I was unsure about if I was going to spend some dosh on Florida as a USN fan. The PvE-exclusive player doesn't appreciate a ship's strengths and vulnerabilities through the same lens as a KOTS finalist, for example, nor should they be expected to. The sales tax in Florida is 6% whereas in California it is 7.25%. In California, the water is generally warmer than in Florida. You have a lot to learn from Ms. Skills started to become stale when BB's started loosing the ability to just soak and eat damage, when DD's and Cruisers lost some of their stealth ability, when changes were made again and again that pushed gameplay to a more static state.. Improved penetration on her AP shells for their calibre. Were it not for her horribly slow speed, I'd have given her a 'simple' rating. If you swapped out Florida's 25mm bow and stern for 26mm versions, she'd be a perfectly normal tier VII battleship. (37% damage reduction for Arizona vs 36% for California). Much of Floridas coastline has Caribbean-like water in terms of warmth and undisturbed turquoise waters. But her bow? As good as California's lateral protection is, her big weak spot is her bow. Simply tragic. I think they are some of the most interesting warships of the Second World War. California is a longer ranged Arizona with slightly improved damage output between better AP shells and a faster reload. "Ooh, 1.9 sigma with twelve guns? Ostensibly, California's range is supposed to help her here. In their hot shooting performance, the Tar Heels saw four players make three or more made 3s in a game the first time in program history. Open water stealth wasn't great - but if you put points in to gunnery on even IJN DD's you could still get a lot out of them firing briefly than vanishing again. I imagine I would like it a lot more than Rado or Calibut, certainly not more than Scharnhorst., Fun things I learned in training matches this week. LittleWhiteMouse, October 12, 2020 in General Game Discussion. Usually it comes down to the captain to decide if a ship is worth it or not. For example, I loved the Hipper class and Prinz Eugen while most view Florida is an abomination. California doesn't make up for her main battery gunnery with her secondaries. (Arizona has a strip of 37mm armour above her belt while California's upper hull is only 26mm). California uses New Mexico's 356mm/50 caliber guns rather than Arizona's 356mm/45s. Can only snipe and cannot take hits at all. ATHENS Georgia basketball battled back but could not overcome its 12-point second half deficit to Florida. Decent gunnery dispersion with 1.9 sigma. She has greatly improved anti-aircraft firepower and she's more stealthy. I'm constantly fighting with her rudder or her guns and she has nothing I value to compensate for it. California isn't difficult to play. California is a beautiful port queen that doesn't live up to her fantastic history. Shots are coming in from right to left with Fuso bow-tanking. Florida, on the other hand, would be much more enjoyable if Hit Points: 58,300Min Bow & Deck Armour: 26mm extremities, upper hull and deck with some 31mm rear deck sections behind the superstructure.Maximum Citadel Protection: 35mm anti-torpedo bulge, 343mm belt and 44mm citadel wall.Torpedo Damage Reduction: 36%. Fair enough. You joke but I warned the devs of this exact thing. I'm not telling you which ship is which. Once you start shooting atbroadside targets? All you really need to know are the battleship basics: use the correct ammo, beware of flashing your sides, try not to get left behind. They need radar to have some limitation - be it not going through rocks or only working for the ship using it (and only mini map spots for the team). Focus instead on her sloppy rudder shift time. She doesn't feel like she handles well because of it. Add on her modest turret traverse rate and she feels like a chunk-lord. Oh well, missed opportunities. Whenever I use a BB for Narai, I prefer to go east of convoy so that I can catch MO broadside when it turns. As much as I would like to be excited about her range, she needs it or the ship simply doesn't work. Like American Lite Beer, the CV rework has a lot to answer for. I have spent a TON! Where she stands head and shoulders above many reviewers is that she lays out all the high and low points, so that the intelligent reader can decide for themselves whether it's a ship they want for the game they prefer to play. Unfortunately the state of the CV rework makes AA unrewarding and frankly useless at times no matter how much of it you have. We already got that game play and at a better price and matchmaking. Queens are 3-2 in their last 5 games against the spread. You can find a Pow Wow somewhere close to you! Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 157.5dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 4.0km): 269.5dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 318.5dps at 70% accuracy. Her carry potential is limited. While expert players can flex a lot of their in-game knowledge to get more out of Florida's potential, her defensive limitations thwart most attempts to push aggressively. Her guns don't hit hard enough or fast enough and are foiled by even limited angling. Still, she's a nice support ship. If you want to play a more passive, supporting role, Florida works well, especially against CVs. While tier VI carriers have to respect your AA firepower they can still strike you. But seeing how she was being released reminded me of why I write these reviews in the first place: To protect other players from making bad purchases. And finally, as nice as the extra damage is, these are still 356mm guns. It had a good run.. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. For them and cruisers, reduced spotting time after firing is long over due. Bet now! Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. The 0.1 sigma difference is imperceptible in game play -- you couldn't tell the difference if you tried. Though they would have to actually work on balancing CV's (a lot of ordnance damage needs to come down, AA needs to be fixed/balanced, plane regen/hanger needs to be worked on, etc) and bring back odd tiers before we get to that. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. WebUpcoming Pow Wows Indigenous Institute of the Americas 16th Annual IIAmericas Celebration 2022 Mar 31 - Apr 2, 2023 - Cleburne TX March 31 - April 2, 2023 Honoring Indigenous Cultures, Dance and Art FRIDAY 4-9pm - Gourd Dance SATURDAY 10am - 7pm Children's Pow Wow InterTribal More Information Mascoutin Society Winter Social I'm left to wonder what the point of California's design implementation as is. She is to Arizona what Alabama is to Massachusetts & North Carolina-- entirely forgettable and an unfortunate waste of money for worse game play. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.5km / 11.79kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 9.69km/ 8.72kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 11.71km. The Wildcats score just 1.4 fewer points per game (67.4) than the Gators give up (68.8). Other than Shimakaze (which needs it only really on it's stock torps) the old IJN torp line needs the range it's torps are spotted back down to the same levels as every other nation not using DWT's, or at least cut in half or reduced to .1 over. In order to land citadel hits, shells must contend with her 35mm anti-torpedo bulge then her 343mm belt and finally her 44mm citadel wall. This means, gunnery wise, you're paying more money for a worse experience. There's nothing out of the ordinary here. In battle, targets are moving at different angles and speeds which makes any reasonable evaluation exceedingly difficult unless there is a tremendous change in performance. It could be worse, I suppose. Very slow top speed of 20.5 knots and poor handling as a result despite her smaller turning circle radius. Without allies to road-block, California will be run down, sneaky or not. I'm just a slightly above average player too. The victory snapped a three-game losing streak and was only the third in February following the upset of the Tennessee Volunteers to open the month along with a However this gap isn't quite as pronounced as the difference in speed would suggest as Arizona has higher Krupp, a coefficient WG uses to directly modify penetration values. She doesn't have boosted HE shell damage the way Japanese and British battleships do, so she's kind of lackluster there. I find california to have more of a culture than florida. Overall, the accuracy is very good, but not "crazy". , is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us speed. On cruisers, reduced spotting time after firing is long over due they do n't hit hard enough fast! 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