Dear Sarah, New Zealand truly is a wonderful place. I strongly suggest that you may sometimes take the time to travel a little and open your horizons. I can't help but share your sentiment. im sorry you and your husband had to go through what you did and now I see it (albeit from a different angle) how bad this country can be to people who are deemed different. This means that if you have a car, you can get pretty much anywhere around the UK. [12] This is widely regarded as a backronym. This was a great read and it made me think a lot. I grew up in 'Middle England' Home Counties and have lived in the Midlands and Yorks so have a fair view of Britain, England (vs London) and consider myself (and family) thoroughly British (I open my mouth and you will agree too!). Stop running it down, we didn't ask you to come here and complain about everything. I am now 51 and after 19 years as a teacher have the last few years become fed up of the British and my way of life. Or is there more to the story? I love nature and feel now that I am always inside wasting my life away. I guess Einstein was right after all..only two things are infiniteyou know the saying As we were already British citizens, we too participate in the vote and yes, we voted "stay" in case you were wondering. Dear awesome British people out there. Your comment deserved a huge round of applause. It took me years of hard work before I could even begin my application as a British citizen. American actress Chloe Sevigny shouldn't expect a warm welcome if she ever returns to Manchester - she claims the city is full of "chavs". :). Rain makes this country green heaven, which is ideal for keeping those beautiful rolling hills everyone loves. Thanks again! I could not understand how you could be surrounded by millions of people yet feel so lonely. The British summer is terribly wet and cold. There was a culture years ago and no denying that there are some very creative people that have come from England. We saved Europe from Nazis and agreed to defend Europe unconditionally after Brexit. The referendum changed everything for me. Scotland is a wonderful place, but ultimately, it is still part of the UK.for now at least :). Will be beneficial to sell my home here and move back ?? Anyway, I hope I have explained rationally that it's not as simple as how a lot of the press talks about Brexit :-). I'm 30, resident of south East Northumberland in my childhood and then Newcastle as an adult, and have known the term Charver for as long as I can remember. Plus, all the great writers and scientists coming from here made me think the educational system would be wonderful. Think carefully. We've left again. You are laughable, John! In addition, I think there are other significant and perhaps more substantial factors that are playing into this hostility, namely, the rise of religious fanaticism, fundamentalism and its debate in Britain. If this article baffles you then install some baffle plates mate! The thought of having to stay here for the next three years of my degree, then however long after that until I find an opportunity abroad and hopefully get sponsored - is killing me. We are now in Portugal and we miss the prices for groceries in the UK BUT with everything, life is still such much cheaper here. I thought this was also quite funny! The perception is Britain 'easy' - do what you want, whatevers. I am an Indian immigrant living in the UK for 15 odd years. However, it is shocking to still hear people moaning about immigrants coming to Britain for the sake of benefits, whereby it is the vast majority of immigrants who pay the most taxes. It is quite a harrowing existence at times where I sit and contemplate how screwed I am living in this country. I'd really like to visite England again, because i think i lacked many things to know and experience in this place, i like England very much and i hope to be back soon. Where else will you find so much freedom of choice. This didn't stop me, though, I persevered until I got accepted. I'd rather stay here in Lisbon. Perhaps you can tie a flag to it and wave it around for the amusement of your 'patriotic' peers. less than in any other country in Europe. Good luck finding your new base guys :) Can't wait to see where you travel to! I respect your opinion. Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and lots of National Trust locations for wonderful days out. [30], Characters described as "chavs" have been featured in numerous British television programmes, as well as films. The weather is better but their governments are destroying both. No conservative party will help us in this regard. Did I? (Not saying that everyone in the North is racist, nor am I saying no Southerners are racist - just a generalisation). It doesn't rain disproportionately at all. I have degrees in Business and Cyber Security. We are the first of the G7 countries to require zero CO2 emission by law. I went to uk last month and fell in love with portsmouth seaview and brighton, and my boyfriend told after the trip we wants to go to UK! You can't have a first worldly state and have open borders. It always rains. And dozens of other things if you bothered to look it up, which you aren't. To be honest, I do not think that people here have become "racister" than other countries, actually on the contrary I think that the UK is still one of the most tolerant countries in the world. London is a fantastic place full of opportunities, it just needs to match your own requirements. In general, the climate here is very mild and comfortable, no hurricanes, droughts or deep freezes. How can a Dutch doctor steal Englishman's jobs if said Englishman simply isn't qualified (because of said class system) to even get to that level of education? Unlike many others, we understand the importance of being part of the EU. but maybe if I was Turkish it would be different. Answer (1 of 23): An answer to this obviously hugely depends on where (and whether, given we're asking the rest of the UK in this question too) you live/visit in England, and also has to take on the idea of whether or not 'everyone else' finds England depressing. But obviously you're biased because you're an immigrant so you're never gonna understand me. This isn't really a new thing. With a crime rate of 123.2 per 1,000 people, West Yorkshire is the most dangerous part of England. Brits live in the illusion that its great here but in reality its a shithole. Thank you for addressing that question bravely, truthfully and directly and may you and your partner have lots of luck and joy in finding your place in this world. So many people prefer going abroad when there are so many wonderful places to see within the country. Please read again . Newbiggin is a small fishing village in Northumberland North East, crawling with dressing gown wearing teenage mums, underage smokers and drinkers, and loud rowdy locals! Travelling doesn't come cheap in the UK. Adulthood showed me the REAL England. It does have it's strengths, mostly about work, but leisure is not one of them. Honestly though, what do we have to do and who do we have to vote for to get these unwanted immigrants and their allies the hell out of our land? We have a long way to go before we can live in a borderless world, where are all welcome anywhere and everywhere. Britain has come a long way, and whilst not perfect, is one of the most welcoming nations culturally-curious in the world. For more than a year we are still trying to find our home. [2][7] The word "chavvy" has existed since at least the 19th century; lexicographer Eric Partridge mentions it in his 1950 dictionary of slang and unconventional English, giving its date of origin as c. I'm sad that 52% of our fellow countrymen make you feel that you're not welcome. Imagine not having power for your computer. Yes, I disagree with Brexit, but that is the nature of democracy. I worked hard, I had some great opportunities and despite being born in another country, I am very grateful for all the opportunities the UK has given me. I'm a foreigner myself, living in the UK and have not encountered ANY racism at all yet. I've lived in 6 different countries, and in my opinion, the UK offer the worst quality of life. You insult our country and our people. Its sad what is happening with the world today. We are much happier out of the uk as it is now over populated in general. The cold, the racism, the bigotry, the expense, the American attitudes of greed and money over morality, the awful changes to education, the privatisation of everything. Just read Hector's racists comments towards another reader and if you still think my attitude should change, Brian, you are much like Hector. They are more racist Im afraid, albeit in a passive way. I know exactly how you feel. They say immigration is an issue but so is emigration. Well, if you are going to Japan things won't be easy there is much more difficult to integrate in Japan than UK, you are really targeting difficult countries, but is your choice. if I will not have children was really easy but now ??!! Thank you for your message and thank you for taking the time to write back to me. I hope you find a new place you will call home. If you are in need of health treatment or ill, forget it. Not to say travel in the UK was so expensive, not to mention living there. We loved exchanging views on politics and weekly debates were something I looked forward to. I was stunned by Brexit and very sad as well, it foreshadowed the US elections. So we might as well make the most of it. This obviously all falls in line with the class society and with the fact that this is a tresure island for rentiers. I also lived and worked in Greater London. You should point out it is illegal for Muslims to convert to another religion in the UAE. Plus with the stupid spellings now some parents choose, who knows how they're spelled!!! That is what Brexit is all about: fighting back against this invasion. In case you dont know much about Balkan food (clearly you dont), we have kebabs (mici in Romania, cevapi in ex-Yugoslavia countries), spicy vegetable spreads and dips, apple, cherry and pumpkin pies and strudels, sour noodle soups, SEASONINGS (so shocking for British palates I know) such as paprika, chilli sauces, garlic dips, shawarmas (thats another kebab for you), cheesy or jam filled doughnuts, the cabbage rolls you mentioned are filled with meat, rice and spices! I know some will agree, whilst others won't. Some of these guys were around in the 80's and were punks back then (the non racist kind). You can't compare the average salary with the average rent in a normal or even expensive area. I'm always asked whether or not I would move back and honestly, especially as a result of recent events and where things seem to be headed, I wouldn't. If they could choose their nationality before they were born, many would like to be English. 2) Generate positive cash flows I went from happy to lucky travel blog writer that loved adventure and spontaneity to not wanting to get up in the morning. An interesting article, but you lost my respect as soon as you wrote this: Immigrants are the people who are willing to give up their rights, liberties and cultures, in order to work for the sake of your government, your country, your society and your benefits. The living quality and standards are just so much better in most other countries I have lived in (Ireland included) that I lost my willingness to try and live here. Thank you for your message. But it's starting to pop up again, with quite a few creators on TikTok and other platforms making videos that take the mick out of. We have some of the best sports in the world, Wimbledon and the Premiership for example. All the talent and creativity has been sucked dry out of this placeits so dead and will continue to be dead and fall behind so many other wonderful countries in the world. Houses are tiny and cramped and almost comical in size compared to other countries, London . But as I say it never really went away it was always there. Typical patronising, sneering, condescending arrogant attitude of a leftie remainer voter. Romania is a beautiful country. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I grew up as an expat kid and global citizen so I don't really understand the veil of staunch patriotism to one country. The Indian gentleman who gave up his citizenship to serve the Queen and the country forgets the hatred and racism in his own land of origin, where color of skin is a passport to success. The average British student doesn't study anything but marketing, business administration, management! You can enjoy all four seasons! Very nice post! Thanks to the withdrawal agreement my degree is worth less in the EU compare to what it used to be. I have never lived in UK. I still remember the distress and shame I felt that day. We have some of the best humour in the world. https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/how-i-learnt-to-loathe-england That's a pretty sad position to be in. Well, maths and sciences requires thinking and bright individuals. "Chav" (/tv/), also "charver", "scally" and "roadman" in parts of England, is a British term, usually used in a pejorative way. Nations that have been under oppression for so many years thanks to communism? Omg what a nasty angry post..you really do hate yourself don't you? I identify as immigrant as I'm British Naturalised and recently returned home from spending most of the last decade living overseas in Asia-Pac (Australia and Singapore). About 12 years ago when I came to study in Manchester, Britain was a different place. Biased review - well yeah, I mean it is my site. P.S Stacy/Stacey could be both spellings. To say its all crap is just completely idiotic. But no one wants to live in Scotland! The problem with Britain is that it bends over backwards too much, and does not do enough - paradoxically, at the same time. It sounds like it, my friend. This article totally baffles me. I have a Polish wife, and we've been increasingly travelling full-time. I now live in the United States with my brother and while there are also problems, there are ample opportunities for professional growth and learning and I generally feel America places more value in your experience. They still believe in the purity of Japanese blood and parents discourage mixed marriage. The UK blames, as you said, hard-working Poles, Romanians, and now the whole EU. I also hope you don't feel any issues as a result of Brexit. Furthermore, I respect the people who in my mind, made Britain awesome (Like Mick Jagger, David Attenborough or Maggie Smith). I was born in the UK and have never been made to feel alienated, but even I find this country ignorant and hateful at the best of times. The blogger writes the country is nation of racists.then goes country hopping in Europe.only to return. It might be because, even not being religious, I come from a Catholic country, but the way the "Alfie Evans Case" was handled by the hospital, media, judges etc. London has less rain per annum than Bucharest, look it up. Image: ANGLIA PRESS AGENCY LTD) The Lancashire town hold the dubious honour of being crown the least offensive borough on list. This post is so timely for us - we're currently approaching the end of our two year contract and are trying to decide whether we move on from Abu Dhabi to travel relatively long-term or whether we commit to another year. I agree what you said 90%. I have been unable to find work in my field because they don't know what to do with my qualifications ('You need a UK qualification'), and the algorithm ber-usage in this country is insane. Look at the buffoon in power now. The weather can be a bit much and I heard Belgium doesn't come with much sunshine either. A very powerful piece and interesting from my perspective as a Canadian who left Canada to travel for many of the same reasons. Joris. Make it like in the past, the author says that the past was better. Sometimes it's nice to come back and see it all through the eyes of a spectator. Thank you for writing a well-structured article. If you think the only "British" dishes are the Sunday roast, fish and chips, pies and bleedin toad in the hole then you're a bit of a divvy. Because I am white I could pass for being British or European but I am not. I lived in the UK for 37 years until 2015 and moved back to Egypt. I think I have officially reached the point of depression due to the rain and I am absolutely desperate to leave. The realisation that my expectations of London were all wrong led me into severe depression. Most working Brits are counting the days to retirement and escape from this violent slum. Im scared for the future of my children and have never been so ashamed to be british! [4] In Newfoundland, "skeet" is used in a similar way,[5] while in Australia, "eshay" or "adlay" is used. Hello Faith, thank you for your comment. Please don't be afraid of the UK! I wish more countries will adopt this! No offence, but millennials tend to romanticise the far left. But it's problem is it deals with that with 'abacus economics' of just letting anyone in, mostly unskilled and low-paid. I am what you call a naturalised British citizen. Going south helps, but the salaries are way too low to afford it too often. In Ontario (particularly in Toronto), the term is "hoodman", an equivalent of the term "roadman" used in England. Mainly in connection with Public Service jobs and the Commonwealth. With my partner we feel the same and are struggling with hate/ underestimation and xenophobia in London for a long time. Mad! I am now back in the UK as a 24 year old business undergrad, sacrificing the next 3+ years of my life in order to obtain a degree and hopefully get sponsored and immigrate to Aus/Nz. A 2006 survey by YouGov suggested 70% of TV industry professionals believed that Vicky Pollard was an accurate reflection of white working-class youth. Good luck, Cory. This is a wonderful piece. If you are not careful, it can be a cruel existence whereby you work to live and you live to work. The hardship will still be there just in a slightly different way (ie:through the spouse that will need to adapt to change and the support needed with it). I am glad to hear you settled in Germany. Thank you very much for being brave and courageous, and for writing this article. I prefer many countries abroad - and hope to relocate - good luck with your travels . I can bet on that! A spokeswoman said, "With slogans from characters in shows such as Little Britain and The Catherine Tate Show providing us with more and more contemporary slang, our "Whatever" sweets now nicknamed chav hearts have become very popular with kids and grown-ups alike. I always turn up to a new place eager to learn about the culture, and with romantic views about the entire city/country. This was an interesting read, I really enjoyed this article. I really like your article. Hope you will make it to Canada someday. I'm of Indian origin butI was born in the UK and I am thinking of moving to India. I've yet to witness anti-social behaviour here. Accommodation: yeah, pretty expensive to be fair :). I am glad you had the courage to leave it all behind and become the fulfilled and happy person you are today. Brandon, you are a delusional idi*t. I am an Indian immigrant and I would rather eat my own excrement than be English. I hated the weather, the lack of sunshine (sunsets at 3 PM????? But I guess you took the right decision :/, Hi Cristina, it is very hard to leave the known and take a leap of faith into the unknown. This, sadly, has to be the most ludicrous, ill informed, nonsensical piece of writing I have ever had the misfortune to read. I live in the UK right now (Scotland), but I'm not a citizen. Brexit will force the country to develop the regions and become less dependent on London, which in turn will reduce the pressure on housing in the South-East. Would you conceive a white being in the government in Pakistan? I wish the world would be more open, patient, loving. The UK is our home and we are proud first-generation EU immigrants and British naturalised citizens. We're able to save a lot of money every month and are homeowners. What might come as a shock is that I even loved the weather! While supermarket prices are very low, rent, utilities, council tax and eating out is astronomical compared to other countries. But the vast majority of people in the UK seem to be relatively well off. I have seen both. Its nice to be able to relate to someone once in a while, and for that, Im eternally greatful. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. I could see where things were headed and at the time I was a social worker. Hi Cory, Many Thanks for this amazing post, it is the most realistic picture of UK currently. Your remark about the EU being a dictatorship shows a bizarre disconnect from the ugly reality of the current world. You are so right about costs! In Germany I have never felt discriminated against as a foreigner. Happy you brought in some of the more sensitive economic and political reasons, as well, Thank you, Melissa. 2) Not sure about Bulgaria but in Romania we have many famous Black Romanian celebrities and even have a Palestinian MP Portugal is the 4th safest country in Europe England used to be a nice place and I really wish we could do something to increase the safety rankings. Over half the worlds patented inventions are British. British culture is now 'whatevers' and to even have any expectations or respect is 'right wing' or some sort of phobia or ism. Well TIL, I'm from near Middlesbrough so the term must have not spread that far either that or I'm having a brain fart. Though it's not where my heart is. Cory, are you a mind reader? For every ignorant comment, there is a kind person who welcomes foreigners. I have rights. People like you make me all the more happier that Leave and Trump won, and you know, those liberal leftie tears are so very sweet! And the people that think this is OK: well they are next, eventually; when they figure out what is going on and decide to fight back themselves. Too many people taking out, not enough putting in enough. I think after a decade of living in the UK, certain things started changing a bit too much and got to us. I have come to realise that home is where the heart is, and it really does not matter where one lives if they are happy there. The core of the British kitchen is the oven, as you might already know from the Great British Bake Off. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education and world-class universities, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), countryside, regulation, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still contend the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. 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