Former Coaching Staff: Where are they now? Williams and Harris pretty much flamed out. View All Discussions French on the Bench , "David doesn't even fart. And, you are also correct about Taylor. It kicks off by detailing the inner workings of the Bud Foster Gap Defense that has baffled most of the ACC over the last 8 years. It's no secret that Tech uses a lot of "hybrid" type players. Bud Foster is the former longtime Virginia Tech Defensive Coordinator where he spent 33 seasons coaching. Thanks! The Whip responsibilities seem to change as much as the skillsets of the players in the position. But I don't think we put enough pressure on them either due to match ups on the front line and some weaknesses in coverage, both due to injuries. Remember getting gashed repeatedly by just about everybody we played? And you can quote me on that shit!" pretty cool to look back on it from time to time. "#()%$%%! I think they use the same DE rotation as last year, with Wilson and McCray playing every 4th series and Marshall getting some snaps at tackle and end. And this. How does pressure relate to coverage? The running back is supposed to take two strides playside, plant his playside leg (in this case the right leg) and select a weak spot where the defender has overrun the play. Graves certainly was an outlier as far as his girth, along with Jim Davis, but the vast majority of VT tackles are shaped like trashcans. pdf yrs ago. Here's the INT described at the end of the article. Frenchgreat new addition to TKP! One of Techs defensive coaches in the booth communicates the ball position, down/distance and personnel group to the coaches on the sideline. Damn shame if you ask me. Before I wrap up this part of the series, I want to get back to the adjustments made after the 2003 season. The Rover aligns to the passing strength pre-snap, so hell adjust to the slot WRs most of the time. BTW, I dont think I've ever seen a gif used as a legit educational tool and not just an lol. 8 Ohio State with schemes used by Defensive Coordinator Bud Foster,. The Whip and Free Safety were more weak side players, so they would usually align to the weak side of the formation. Playing in a college system that emphasizes skillset diversity is actually a good thing. I have a few questions: 1) With all the extra movement in the "radical stunts", do you see this as wearing down the front 7 more and possibly being the cause for some of the injuries, esp last year, (ex. If you can stop the run with six, the whip or backside safety doesn't have to commit so quickly. When Frank Beamer coached under Bobby Ross, they ran the Wide Tackle 6, and he took that with him to VT. Prior to 2004, the alignment of the linebackers and safeties was based more on the strong side / weak side of the offensive formation. More and more NFL coaches are blending the 4-3 and 3-4 concepts and scheme. The "nickel" linebackers have almost no pass defense responsibility, and instead are used in a variety of blitz packages designed to outman the offensive line and force the quarterback to make quick throws, where the designed hidden coverages in the secondary await to pick off the pass. Sounds like fun doesnt it? "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby, I wish I could give you more legs. By keeping the tight ends and running backs in to block, offenses could buy additional time to go to their wide receivers running down the field against single, man-to-man coverage. The scheme is also simpler to execute because the players are aligned based on ball position, rather than on the strength of the offensive formation. Former Federal Fugitive Pleads Guilty in California to Massive Fraud and Identity Theft Scheme in Connection with Nationwide Foreclosure Scam Defendant Collected More Than $1.2 Million from More Than 800 Distressed Homeowners . Presented by, Click here to access all three parts of the Hokie Defense series by Raleigh Hokie. 1. *U# N)qQ/y(H"hVt kf@^L;,R?P0;|v44 JFC=zYh AWEBYl5I[.X@v6UQV@_msY)Ng1KhZ/Y)va+XsM =_ewrr\|2Q)/zN]N}q_r{f-wvw)1,Z )$fy86g8@ZtqI,dX& ^twn*g$b{xoa.WwDWZflk1g,JIEfPO[h-H( ,AdYp[fuNP&SuhZs`um%?HSpQ1Y. If healthy, this year's defense is going to be quite different. Look at Florida under Urban Meyer. I have told anyone who would listen that I didn't like having Collins moved inside, and that if they did move him inside, he needed to get upfield and disrupt the full back/QB mesh point. In the above play, Jayron Hosley backpedals to his deep third at the snap. As mentioned earlier, that led to man-to-man match-ups of a linebacker or Rover against that third and fourth wide receiver. '+,,-/4443.4444444444 That gives up some of the flat zone coverage, so watch for more WR screens this week if they show us C4. Does this really hurt us? In terms of positions, the Stud, Whip, Mike, Field Corner and Free Safety always align toward the wide side of the field. And then they all have to stay on the same page through a series of on-going adjustments just before the ball is snapped. If you play C2R, and the opposition sends the outside WRs deep, the CB must go with him, which takes away the deep help for everyone on one side of the defense, so that it basically ends up M2M. Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. Once their keys indicate that the running back has the ball, each pursues the ball. Really great stuff. I have read it many times in the past. The singular thing that can derail their run defense is getting chewed up physically against Georgia Tech. In combination, these adjustments resulted in more big plays against the Tech defense, both in the running game as well as the passing game. Because of the gap fit responsibility, a tremendous amount of pressure exists for the whip and the safeties to be sure tacklers anytime the ball carrier penetrates the line. You cannot play straight M2M all the time. The biggest difference is how wildly the defensive responsibilities differ between the gap defense. The "G" front is a 4-man Even front that covers both OGs with DTs, and is heavy on stunting. against Stanford in the OB? WHIP might align himself like a FS, but hell come down over the middle into a hook zone instead of dropping for deep half-field coverage. . Nuk Hopkins is usually a Boundary-side WR, so he gets the Boundary CB most of the time. . The talent of their front just is not what it once was. When things went well, a Hokie game featured numerous sacks, tackles for losses, interceptions, and the band wearing out the theme from Empire Strikes Back. Because its a 4-4 defense that has to be able to handle the spread offense at times, it needs some rather special players at some of the hybrid LB spots. Great write up French! He can have a SS build and sometimes aligns deeper, like the FS. If he went out, Rover has him. His number was 46. He has held the job since 1996, and he came to . In the big games where we got burnt it was the opposing QB's abilities that made the difference. Backer: The Backer (Tariq Edwards) lines at the same depth as the mike but in the guard tackle gap. Mr. Hokie Cody Grimm was moved to the secondary (which is funny given that pass coverage was his greatest weakness as a Hokie.) Either way we'll have 3 starting quality DT. Steeles downfall came against spread-it-out, fast-paced systems like West Virginias. He had to make the Rover less a run-defender and more of a full-time DB, a SS in laymans terms. We wore it again that season in our ACC Championship win against FSU. Bud, a divorcee, married Jessie in February on Super Bowl Sunday, about four months after the hospital scare and around the time discussion began about him retiring. Note that with no receivers split to the boundary, the Rover will rotate up to the line of scrimmage and align as a linebacker on the boundary side. That sign board on the sideline is a tool that identifies the offensive personnel group. He's as genuine as they come. Smart Football did an excellent write up on the Hokies robber and 4-4G. Gambling problem? Also, in goal line and short yardage, the backer and blitz the gap to try to blow the play in the backfield playside. With two CBs outside you basically have 6 ways it can work without changing the call. Hopefully he has a breakthrough year. Excellent Hokies like Xavier Adibi, Chris Ellis, and Jonathan Lewis have barely had a look. On this play against UVA, the Hokies are playing a base front. The Mike will likely be unblocked, but the running back should flow directly to him, so the Mike essentially has responsibility for the 1 gap. This is particularly true when the Whip or Rover is aligned on a slot WR -- hell come hard on the blitz pretty often. For example, a 21 personnel group is two running backs, one tight end, and two wide receivers. Actually Clemson's D is not going to be all that different than what it was last year except that Venable is simplifying it without all the checks and stuff. 3. Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. I'm pretty sure, if VT could land Hand or Brown, Foster would develop them into 1st Rd D-linemen, even in a gap fitting scheme. Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. Meanwhile, Dwayne Allen would come BEHIND the line against the grain of the play and pop out the weak side. To counter these offensive trends, Bud Foster made some adjustments to the base defense after the 2003 season. It is generally made with a 2i-technique on the weakside (Wide 6) and a 3-technique strongside (Split 6), so its quite close to the Over front (1 tech weak, 3-tech strong). Hop, Bruce, and JGW) and as possibly causing fatigue later in the year if the guys aren't in shape? The Mike is over the center. Stud End (Tyrell Wilson): Pre-Snap, the S end lines up outside eye of the boundary side tackle. Using a series of hand signals, Bud Foster communicates the defensive call (set, blitz call, passing strength, coverage, etc) to the players on the field. MAN. When they play 46 front, its mostly man/man, because its a pressure front like the Under we use. Watkins is usually Fieldside. I will touch on this more when I write my column on the secondary play, but I think because Hokies safeties have been victimized in man coverage so much, that Foster is looking at his safeties having less run support responsibility and being better at coverage, hence the change of putting converted corners at safety. In certain situations, without changing the personnel, the Hokies will play an 8-man front, with four defensive linemen, four linebackers, and three defensive backs (4-4-3 alignment). View All Discussions French on the Bench , "Does it get any better than Thursday Night in Blacksburg?" However, what VT does is very different from TCU and here well showcase the fronts and coverages VT likes the most. To the uneducated eye, the defense features two ends, two tackles, three linebackers, two safeties, and two corners just like a traditional NFL style 4-3, but Foster turns the 4-3 concept on its ear. h_k@vJbR They have to get Maddy, Marshall, and McCray in there to dominate rather than having read and react play from Wilson and Collins (at tackle.). Id call both of them pseudo-Cover 3. As for NFL caliber lineman. At the snap, the nose has the daunting task of stunting two gaps, crossing the face of both the guard and the tackle to get outside shoulder gap fit on the 4 gap. On the other side, teams could get favorable running game match-ups by running to the boundary. The wide variety of stunts are designed to make backs read holes that are not there, causing them to run right into the mike or backer who have moved across the formation to meet the back in the hole. Even if they win, guys like Hopkins and Collins were just not the same after the GT game last year. Combining elements from each scheme is what gives the 4-2-5 its versatility. I have had some great question both here and on twitter about some of the nuances of the defense. There are a number of factors that the coaches consider when setting the defense from play to play. Tyler is almost always coming forward at the snap except when a key has him pursuing playside. Jessie has three boys of her. When Virginia Tech plays Duke on Friday night (7 ET, ESPN/ESPN App), Foster will coach his 282nd game as the Hokies' defensive coordinator. I think the weakness that was exposed by Clemson is that if a team can set up play action by running the ball effectively, the whip and the safeties have to cover their gap fill responsibility before reacting to a pass route. That's how good of a kid he is." To the uneducated eye, the defense features two ends, two tackles, three linebackers, two safeties, and two corners just like a traditional NFL style 4-3, but Foster turns the 4-3 concept on its ear. What VT plays most against pro-style teams is Inverted Cover 2 Robber, but the deep cover guys are the Cornerbacks, not the safeties. Without the post-2003 adjustments, there would have been many plays where Rouse would have been isolated in man coverage against the slot receiver. HWC? The defensive calls will be different on 2nd and three versus 3rd and nine. When they face 21/22/12 personnel, theyll set up in the G front or Bear front most of the time. Our DL has way more play making responsibility in the run game than a traditional 4-3 where at least 2 of the linemen are expected to eat double blocks and free up the linebackers. Cover 4 is technically a zone defense, but plays like M2M and often ends up looking just like the normal Cover 2 youre used to visualizing. This book features Bud Foster, Defensive Coordinator at Virginia Tech; Chris Ash, Co-Defensive Coordinator, Ohio State; Mickey Matthews, former Head Coach at James . If our defense is designed to "funnel" the ball carrier to certain positions I could see some recruits not liking that. Because he lines up so close to the LOS, he has to be really good with his backpedal fundamentals to be successful, but in 2-Robber he has the flat zone strong. I saw that and knew we were in trouble. The defensive call in combination with the personnel group establishes the specific pass coverage responsibilities for the defense. James Anderson is the only Hokie alumni who is a starter in the front 7 of an NFL team. Meanwhile, the defensive linemen must be quick enough and flexible enough to slant heavily (sometimes 2 gaps) each way, which lends itself to short, stocky defensive tackles whocan get to a spot then hold their gap responsibility. Can we get this thread retitled - "A Look Back at a Look Back to . 1) I have seen a ton of schemes and I can't remember one that repeatedly asks the defensive tackles to stunt across multiple gaps and still maintain gap fits. Fosters defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where they need to be. In an 8-man front, the Rover will rotate up closer to the line of scrimmage and align as the fourth linebacker. It is actually not a 4-3 base, as its introduced on your TV sets, but is a 4-4 front that has morphed into using 4-3 personnel. Also I totally disagree with your wording about the DL simply 'stalemating their blocker in the gap' and 'not being expected to be play makers'. The offense makes the next move by setting their personnel group for this example, they have just removed one of their two running backs and sent in a second tight end. Most teams change alignments and will stunt occasionally, but nobody trys so much to funnel types of running plays to linebackers. From the coaches in the booth, to the coaches on the sideline, to the players on the field, to the pre-snap adjustments; that is a lot of communication and it is pretty much non-stop in those 20-30 seconds between each play. So something else broke down that lead to Clemson being able to run the ball like they did in the second half. -Bud Foster. Was a great move on moving the rover back in alignment based on the offenses being seen but thought the Rover always lined up on the strong side away from the Whip but your diagram indicates them lined on the same side. Because its Even, the Center is totally uncovered. In the diagram, Whitley (who the coaches called "the rover" last year) is lined up to the twins side, and he motions back to the middle of the field while Exum (who was the "free safety" last year) rotates up towards the line with the motion. If you compare how offensive schemes don't really hurt a recruits ability to make it to the NFL, why should a defensive scheme hurt us too? TKP, where you get the analysis and the analysis of the analysis by the original analyst, "Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." Note- things I was wrong about when I started this off: A) Backer is to the boundary. Love the in-depth analysis. Is this true and if so, how do we strengthen this weakness with out losing run control? The potential risk is that the movement can allow for gashing big running plays if the players can't control their gap responsibility. The design of the defense is set up to allow the Mike, Whip, or Stud DE to make the play. Against an 8-man front, it was difficult for offenses to establish the run because there was generally one defender unaccounted for in the blocking scheme. Charley Wiles communicates the front call to the defensive line (stunt calls, etc). 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